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    gerboisebleue
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    PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:20 am Reply with quote

    A another discovery on the web


    What is this strange & spectacular russian shot ?
    On the web, this shot is always named as "Semipalatinsk shot"
    The photo, in color & good quality, probably indicates the 1965-1990's era.
    But the explosion is not fully contained, have clearly seen the fireball (ie radioactive fallout)
    What is this shot date, his yield ?, his goal ? Question Question Question
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    PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:04 pm Reply with quote


    Sorry, I have no idea. I'll keep looking.
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    PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:13 pm Reply with quote

    Anyone have information of this test?



    http://www.sonicbomb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=115

    And here too there is a scene in 00:55 minute

    http://www.sonicbomb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=199
    gerboisebleue
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    PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:12 pm Reply with quote

    Baikal wrote:
    Anyone have information of this test?

    http://www.sonicbomb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=115
    And here too there is a scene in 00:55 minute
    http://www.sonicbomb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=199


    clearly a shot tower test (or near surface shot), not the first (1949) or third (1951) or fourth (1953) test.

    This test look Very same as US/British 8-20 shot tower test, this shot is very probably :
    - october 5 1954 (4 kt surface shot)
    - october 30 1954 (10 Kt near surface shot resulting from misplaced bomb)
    - august 2 1955 (12 kt tower shot)
    - march 16 1956 (14 kt surface/tower shot)
    - august 24 1956 (27 KT surface/tower shot)
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    bueschu
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    PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:13 pm Reply with quote



    It's a non-nuclear explosion but I don't remember anymore what exactly they were bloing up. Probably the remnants of the Semipalatinsk-testsite (so the photo must have been taken around 1991).


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    revolutionman
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    PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:38 am Reply with quote

    gerboisebleue wrote:
    A another discovery on the web


    What is this strange & spectacular russian shot ?
    On the web, this shot is always named as "Semipalatinsk shot"
    The photo, in color & good quality, probably indicates the 1965-1990's era.
    But the explosion is not fully contained, have clearly seen the fireball (ie radioactive fallout)
    What is this shot date, his yield ?, his goal ? Question Question Question


    Maybe someone could translate the narration in the first video? Yes at 55 seconds in that last video, the last test they show and the weapon effects in the film are amazing. There has to be more somewhere of the same clip but longer shots?
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    PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:16 am Reply with quote

    The colour photo is definately non-nuclear. The monochrome image is Buffalo round 1.

    Date: 07:30 UTC 27/09/1956
    Type: Tower @30m
    Yield: 15Kt

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    PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:15 pm Reply with quote

    Thank for the correction. I thought the picture had seen it before ... but as it was on the STS web site I thought it might be the explosion of video, viewed from another angle!
    And with the incorrect date of the test Chagan, and other images misidentified, we know that this page is unreliable! Confused
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    PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:23 pm Reply with quote

    Quote:
    Maybe someone could translate the narration in the first video?


    It says: "...Those threats were more than theatrical thunder. In the autumn of 1961 the Soviets detonated over 40 atomic- and thermonuclear bombs. An unprecedented firework."
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    PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:34 am Reply with quote

    Thanks for the translation. If proof is on the detonations performed in the autumn of 1961, could be these:

    -September 9, 1961 - Semipalatinks, ground burst, wep.saf., 0.38 kt

    -September 14, 1961 - Semipalatinks, ground burst, wep.dev., 0.4 kt

    -September 18, 1961 - Semipalatinks, ground burst, wep.safe., 0.004 kt

    -September 19, 1961 - Semipalatinks, ground burst, wep.safe., 0.03 kt

    -November 3, 1961 - Semipalatinks, ground burst, wep.safe., <0.001 kt

    -November 4, 1961 - Semipalatinks, ground burst, wep.dev., 0.2 kt
    (could someone explain the abbreviations?)

    Or less likely, a low altitude Airburst.

    Bueschu, could you translate the narration of this video please?
    http://www.sonicbomb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=114
    http://www.sonicbomb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=304

    Thanks on advance


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    revolutionman
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    PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:19 am Reply with quote

    bueschu wrote:
    Quote:
    Maybe someone could translate the narration in the first video?


    It says: "...Those threats were more than theatrical thunder. In the autumn of 1961 the Soviets detonated over 40 atomic- and thermonuclear bombs. An unprecedented firework."


    Thanks bueschu! Hopefully one day more Soviet film of the tests will come out.
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    Rus-51
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    PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:03 pm Reply with quote

    Quote:
    What is this strange & spectacular russian shot ?

    I think it is Omega-2 or Omega-3 but I'm not sure. It was liquidation of adits for nuclear tests.

    Omega-2:


    Omega-3:
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    revolutionman
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    PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:31 pm Reply with quote

    Baikal wrote:
    Thank for the correction. I thought the picture had seen it before ... but as it was on the STS web site I thought it might be the explosion of video, viewed from another angle!
    And with the incorrect date of the test Chagan, and other images misidentified, we know that this page is unreliable! Confused


    Yes all over the internet there are dozens of photos of nuclear tests and non-nuclear tests that are labeled as being the "Chagan" test, that most of the time are unrelated tests altogether. Very unreliable sources out there.
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