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    Graviton
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    PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:52 pm Reply with quote

    sonicbomb wrote:


    [Graviton makes a bow]

    I grow fed up with the lies of progressives trying to throw the world into a dystopian toilet, using false science, since I live in a hornet's nest of progressives and their lunatic ideology. I know their methods, beliefs, and goals, all too well.
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    bueschu
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    PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:02 pm Reply with quote

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    He [Lovelock] saw the error of his ways.


    Good for him, since - as I already explained - his revised views are actually more in tune with "mainstream" climate science than his former ones.
    Oh, and where's exactly the spin with his comment again? Sound pretty straight forward to me:

    "He [Lovelock] displays equal disdain for those who do not accept science on climate change [i.e. people like Sarah Palin, Ron Paul or Graviton]: "They've got their own religion. They believe that the world was right before these damn people [the greens] came along and want to go back to where we were 20 years ago. That's also silly in its own way."

    Just a few words on your political views, btw:
    You compared me to a weasel and accuse a very wide and heterogenous group of people to be part of an impossibly large conspiracy - how exactly is that supposed to be moderate?!
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    bueschu
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    PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:05 pm Reply with quote

    Oh, and I noticed that you got ominously silent abouth all the sciency stuff we talked about a few days ago. No arguments left anymore?^^
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    PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:00 am Reply with quote

    Graviton wrote:
    sonicbomb wrote:


    [Graviton makes a bow]

    I grow fed up with the lies of progressives trying to throw the world into a dystopian toilet, using false science, since I live in a hornet's nest of progressives and their lunatic ideology. I know their methods, beliefs, and goals, all too well.
    False science? Do you make up this terminology.

    I only regard scientific finding announced by Fox news to be entirely and totally true. Rolling Eyes
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    Graviton
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    PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:38 am Reply with quote

    N-1 wrote:
    Graviton wrote:
    sonicbomb wrote:


    [Graviton makes a bow]

    I grow fed up with the lies of progressives trying to throw the world into a dystopian toilet, using false science, since I live in a hornet's nest of progressives and their lunatic ideology. I know their methods, beliefs, and goals, all too well.
    False science? Do you make up this terminology.

    I only regard scientific finding announced by Fox news to be entirely and totally true. Rolling Eyes


    It is false science when they are fronting for a very dangerous economic and political plot for radical change, using false (manipulated) data. It was also exposed in the email leaks of key conspirators "scientists," including Mann.
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    bueschu
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    PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:56 am Reply with quote

    Bla bla bla conspiracy bla bla communists bla - sorry, Grav, but I think it's obvious now that you are only interested in spreading conspiracy theories and that you really don't care about science.
    Why else would you bring up issues like the temperature record or the supposedly predicted ice age and then drop them for conveniences sake? Confused
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    Graviton
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    PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:53 pm Reply with quote

    bueschu wrote:
    Bla bla bla conspiracy bla bla communists bla - sorry, Grav, but I think it's obvious now that you are only interested in spreading conspiracy theories and that you really don't care about science.
    Why else would you bring up issues like the temperature record or the supposedly predicted ice age and then drop them for conveniences sake? Confused



    There you go again with your spin. I didn't drop them. I showed that a determined group of ideological conspirators inside the scientific community are trying to build on a political dystopia of their dreams.

    Don't you EVER LEARN FROM HISTORY? The scientific community has been INFUSED with social engineering frauds based on ideology, AND STILL IS, when realms such as RACISM, POLITICS, so-called RIGHTS TO RULE OVER OTHERS, IMPERIALISM (expanding the previous to outside the nation), and MUCH MORE. LEARN! Scientists overcome with ideology will concoct the craziest stuff to try to justify popular ideology, to push racial, national, international, market, or so-called intellectual-elitist control over others, deplorably stomping on the rights of others (even in their own, local communities).

    Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism

    Such movements have been going on since the beginning of civilization, and still are. You live in a La-La Land if you deny these facts written time and time again in history.

    Progressives, their kin Marxists and their cousin fascists (all distinctly to the left, since fascists are ALL ultranationalist socialists), are rooted in these conspiracies of social engineering.

    Example in socialist ideology corrupting Soviet science: http://www.amazon.com/Lysenko-Tragedy-Science-Valeriai-Soaifer/dp/0813520878

    In this book, Dr. Soyfer, a former Soviet scientist who had met Lysenko, documents the destruction of science and scientists under the influence of Lysenko. Contrary to numerous opinions, Lysenko was an poorly educated agronomist who happened to have been in the right place at the right time: In the '30s, "Pravda" wrote him up as a pioneering scientist. Recognizing that newspapers and popular support could fuel his rise to the top of Soviet society, he set about making a name for himself as a scientist in non-academic journals and periodicals. His peasant upbringing and miraculous findings--never empirically proven or duplicated--made him a star proletarian scientist, the kind needed to bring about true Communism.

    Along his way to the top, he was assisted by many people who thought him a sincere, but ill preparted, scientist; he later had many of these people purged after gaining the almost total support of Stalin and Khrushchev. His grand claims of producing superior cattle and wheat, among other things, consistently failed, yet no one dared oppose or even question his policies. Whether to propel himself upward, bring down the academics he apparently detested, or protect himself and his "science", Lysenko nearly eliminated all serious work in genetics, agriculture, and biology from the '30s into the '60s. Numerous scientists were exiled, fired, or executed during his reign as the people's scientist; according to the author, the effects still linger in Russia.

    An amazing story of how, when politics decrees what science is acceptable and how it is going to work in the political paradigm, the results can be tragic.

    I can go on and on and on with examples of ideology crapping on science from within the community, with the frauds being rewarded by political darlings of Marxist, fascist, and progressive administrations. Even the London School of Economics was co-founded by G.B. Shaw, who advocated using poison gas to kill politically/ideologically undesirable people:

    In a 1910 lecture before the Eugenics Education Society, he said:

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    "We should find ourselves committed to killing a great many people whom we now leave living... A part of eugenic politics would finally land us in an extensive use of the lethal chamber. A great many people would have to be put out of existence simply because it wastes other people's time to look after them."

    The Daily Express (London), March 4, 1910, quoted in Dan Stone, Breeding Superman: Nietzsche, Race and Eugenics in Edwardian and Interwar Britain (Liverpool University Press, 2002) ISBN 0853239975
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    bueschu
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    PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:45 pm Reply with quote

    Such a long post - so irrelevant.
    Anyway, thanks for confirming once again that you don't give a damn about science and instead rant on about commies, conspiracies and so on, Grav.

    ---------------------------

    And now back to topic.

    This is what will happen on a much larger political scale if people like Graviton get more political power:

    Madness over sea level rise in North Carolina

    Quote:
    "Sleepy North Carolina became an international topic of conversation (and ridicule) this month thanks to our state legislature's bills declaring sea level rise "illegal", or more accurately, insisting that state planning for future sea level be based only on "historical records", meaning tide gage measurments during the last century..."



    And this is what's will happen on a much larger environmental scale if people like Graviton get more political power:



    “This is a view of the Future. So Watch Out!” – Kevin Trenberth on PBS NewsHour

    Quote:
    "Lack of water, “the great air conditioner”, is causing unusually high temperatures and extreme weather events in the United States, Kevin Trenberth with the National Center for Atmospheric Research tells Judy Woodruff..."
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    PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:46 pm Reply with quote

    For those who still claim that arctic sea ice has recovered after its previous 2007 record:
    Arctic sea ice extent has reached a new record low.


    Arctic sea ice extent breaks 2007 record low

    August 27, 2012

    Arctic sea ice appears to have broken the 2007 record daily extent and is now the lowest in the satellite era. With two to three more weeks left in the melt season, sea ice continues to track below 2007 daily extents.

    .....


    According to NSIDC Director Mark Serreze, "The previous record, set in 2007, occurred because of near perfect summer weather for melting ice. Apart from one big storm in early August, weather patterns this year were unremarkable. The ice is so thin and weak now, it doesn't matter how the winds blow."

    "The Arctic used to be dominated by multiyear ice, or ice that stayed around for several years," Meier said. "Now it's becoming more of a seasonal ice cover and large areas are now prone to melting out in summer."

    With two to three weeks left in the melt season, NSIDC scientists anticipate that the minimum ice extent could fall even lower.


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    Graviton
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    PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:35 am Reply with quote

    bueschu wrote:
    Such a long post - so irrelevant.
    Anyway, thanks for confirming once again that you don't give a damn about science and instead rant on about commies, conspiracies and so on, Grav.


    It's never science when they play and selectively force data in their models, in their wider plan of imposing global governance.

    You refuse to recognize the vast evidence that has been shown in here in this thread, about that, the conspiracy. Scientist write about this a lot. No matter how much you are pushed to the wall, you refuse to acknowledge that. Asking "Where is the evidence?" will only put a lack of touch with reality on you more. GO BACK AND READ.
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    bueschu
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    PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:34 am Reply with quote

    WTF? What does that have to do with arctic sea ice?! Why "pushed to the wall"? The only one who constantly gets owned because he gets the fracts wrong is you, doofus! --> view post above about the new low of the supposedly "recovering" sea ice

    What are you trying to accomplish here anyway, Grav? Pushing my inconvenient posts to the second page and your mindless junk to the first, so that nobody notices how far you've moved away from reality?
    Either discuss the topic or just leave me alone with your random paranoia-rants!
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    Graviton
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    PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:17 pm Reply with quote

    bueschu wrote:
    WTF? What does that have to do with arctic sea ice?! Why "pushed to the wall"? The only one who constantly gets owned because he gets the fracts wrong is you, doofus! --> view post above about the new low of the supposedly "recovering" sea ice

    What are you trying to accomplish here anyway, Grav? Pushing my inconvenient posts to the second page and your mindless junk to the first, so that nobody notices how far you've moved away from reality?
    Either discuss the topic or just leave me alone with your random paranoia-rants!


    Mindless??? You are supporting mindless push of others to autocracy, with this push for neo-Marxist green politics hiding behind fake science.

    I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING IT. You are avoiding the UNDERLYING DECEPTION and ultimate GOAL of this so-called "science."

    Here is another example of formal "science" being concocted/manipulated to push a deeply political agenda. Leading biologists, economists, and leads of other highly specialized fields ganged up in the pursuit of British "racial" and "social" supremacy. Oh, but this was irrefutable science for its time, among the ideologues.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eX5T68TQIo

    Fake science suppresses contrary evidence, evidence that shows massive problems of human global warming. So REAL science to you suppresses evidence??? This is not mindless of me to be deeply concerned about such a threat.

    http://www.mediafire.com/?f6dl25bwrc6os94

    Recall the "science" of its time, just an example of many, of scientific racism?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism Most disturbing here is the list of ideologues who are STILL recognized as important in scientific, philosophical, and other historical foundations.

    Human global warming is also part of a political ideology, and is a cover story for pushing tyrannical global governance and dystopic socialism, forced redistribution of wealth to places like Africa, that would only be skimmed off by crooked politicians and their darling insider business partners.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/africa/item/12769-socialist-international-congress-demands-global-governance-wealth-redistribution Follow the links here to see what Marxists and neo-Marxists say about this push in their own declarations.

    Bueschu, your way of spinning my fact-based denial of the crooked green movement is disturbing. have you ever noticed that the Greens Party of Germany is loaded with former east German communists who spun political correctness to go global in their same goals today? Joschka Fischer is a prime example. Yes, you are Austrian, whose flag also bears the hallmarks of the communist sickle and hammer, and you are likely aware of the Greens.
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    PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:28 pm Reply with quote

    *yawn*
    Even more of Gravitons boring hate-rants...
    And while he goes crazy about some imaginary global-socialist-scientists conspiracy, the extent of arctic sea ice has finally reached its 2012 low point (?) - a full 18% below the previous record set in 2007! Shocked




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    Btw, I'm Swiss - as I've already written a couple of times here, moron...
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    PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:42 am Reply with quote

    not want to interfere here, but Joschka Fischer is definitely not a former east German communists.
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    Graviton
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    PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:30 pm Reply with quote

    bueschu wrote:
    *yawn*
    Even more of Gravitons boring hate-rants...
    And while he goes crazy about some imaginary global-socialist-scientists conspiracy, the extent of arctic sea ice has finally reached its 2012 low point (?) - a full 18% below the previous record set in 2007! Shocked

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    Btw, I'm Swiss - as I've already written a couple of times here, moron...


    I was told you are Austrian.

    Yet one mistake doesn't disqualify my other views, nor my intellect. That would be a blatant fallacy of you to assume that. ... Desperate of you.

    Yes, there IS a conspiracy. That video I sent also showed others in Congress are aware of that. I can provide vast material on accusations and evidence of conspiracy. The only reason Climategate was dismissed was because the panel that did the investigation was stacked with others who are ideologically related to the scam.

    One example of MANY: Ben Santer of the IPCC admitted deleting the finding of the 1995 report that stated that human issues were not a factor in global warming, against the final conclusions of the report. He was pressured into it by others.

    Quote:
    One man who has battled against climate sceptics longer than most is the climate modeller Ben Santer, who completed his PhD in climate science at the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in the 1983 before going to the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California. He helped write the second IPCC assessment report, published in 1995. Most famously, this report claimed to find for the first time that "the balance of evidence suggests a discernible human influence on global climate" – essentially because the geographical pattern of warming across the globe matched that predicted by models. Santer was also lead author of some of the key research behind this claim and of the relevant IPCC chapter.

    The main body of the report included lots of cavils about the claim to see the "discernible human influence". As another lead author on the critical chapter, Tim Barnett, then of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, part of the University of California, San Diego, told me in 1996: "We wrote a long list of caveats in that chapter. We got a lot of static from within IPCC, from people who wanted to water down and delete some of those caveats. We had to work very hard to keep them all in." But many did not make it to the summary for policy-makers, and the New York Times leaked the text with the headline: "Scientists finally confirm human role in global warming." Nothing about the balance of evidence there.
    SOURCE: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/09/ipcc-report-author-data-openness

    More:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJdmn7zjR-A&t=1m39s

    Oh, the huge list of cheating by bureaucrats pushing scientists to fraud the climate science goes on and on ....

    If you think REAL SCIENCE works this way, with forced deletions of contrary evidence to conspiratorial politics, they you're nutty.
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