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    N1
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    PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:25 am Reply with quote

    I was reading on wiki (cant find the link at the moment) that the USSR fired a couple of 25 MT bombs and, I think one 30-35 MT bomb. Has anyone heard of these giants?

    Edit: OK here's a link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_tests#List_of_most_powerful_nuclear_tests
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    gerboisebleue
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    PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:44 pm Reply with quote

    N1 wrote:
    I was reading on wiki (cant find the link at the moment) that the USSR fired a couple of 25 MT bombs and, I think one 30-35 MT bomb. Has anyone heard of these giants? Edit: OK here's a link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_tests#List_of_most_powerful_nuclear_tests


    Yes
    These very large H-bomb test was far more "weaponisable" than the Tsar bomb (27 tons).

    It is possible that these 2/3 large test (12-24 megatons) used the ?maybe? famous russian 12,5 megatons H-bomb "capsule" (secondary/tertiary) (some rumors indicate the the Tsar bomb used 4 of these capsules).

    In any case, it became apparent that these 2/3 large test were far more "military usable"

    = more "lightweight"....maybe 6/10 tons, more usefull on early large russian ICBM RV or bombers...
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    N1
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    PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:15 am Reply with quote

    No photos or videos? What a shame.
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    revolutionman
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    PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:24 pm Reply with quote

    N1 wrote:
    No photos or videos? What a shame.


    I agree completely. It is a shame there are a lack of available films of Soviet tests as there were so many, and they filmed/documented every much like the U.S.. One day I hope.....
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    PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:34 pm Reply with quote

    Hello all. There is a little information about this big bombs. Apparently, all of this projects were derived from the "Ivan project" (since 1954). The USSR tested 8 bombs with yields over or equal to 10 megatons, all in Novaya Zemlya:

    # 123 - 23/10/1961 - 12,5 Mt - 3500 m
    # 130 - 30/10/1961 - 50-57 Mt - 3500 m
    # 147 - 05/08/1962 - 21,1 Mt - 3600 m
    # 159 - 25/08/1962 - 10 Mt - 2980 m
    # 168 - 19/09/1962 - 10 Mt - 3280 m
    # 173 - 25/09/1962 - 19,1 Mt - 4090 m
    # 174 - 27/09/1962 - 20 Mt - 3900 m
    # 219 - 24/12/1962 - 24,2 Mt - 3750 m

    About Largest nuclear tests: http://johnstonsarchive.net/nuclear/tests/multimegtests.html#S7

    I will to search more information.

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    It is possible that these 2/3 large test (12-24 megatons) used the ?maybe? famous russian 12,5 megatons H-bomb "capsule" (secondary/tertiary) (some rumors indicate the the Tsar bomb used 4 of these capsules).

    What are your sources?
    Canopus
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    PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:03 am Reply with quote

    I was interested in this topic in the old Atomic forum and heard this one could be one of them.



    The video can be seen on here (http://www.sonicbomb.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=199) at 00:35.
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    revolutionman
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    PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:15 pm Reply with quote

    It would be nice to see full clips of what is shown. Unreal. Film hoarders are the worst. Like ole Azer.
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    PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:43 pm Reply with quote

    Quote:
    I was interested in this topic in the old Atomic forum and heard this one could be one of them.


    Hello. That image like the RDS-27 test, 6/11/1955, 250 kt.

    Quote:
    I will to search more information.

    I'm sorry. I have not had time to it.
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    PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:26 am Reply with quote

    Here is a little information about the test 219.

    During 1961 and 1962 Soviet committees Arzamas-16 and Chelyabinsk-70 began building high-performance nuclear warheads, that could be used as warheads for ICBMs. The first test was held on September 19, 1962. A thermonuclear bomb exploded in Novaya Zemlya to 3280 m high and with an output of 10,000 kilotons.

    During this period the committee Chelyabinsk-70 thermonuclear warhead built a high performance, "clean" and intended to serve as a warhead ICBMs, derived from the Tsar bomb. This bomb had a nominal yield of 50 megatons. A test was planned for 1962. Andrei Sakharov, a senior physicist at the Soviet nuclear program, unsuccessfully urged a halt to tests of these giant warheads not to unnecessarily increase the fallout from the atmosphere and radioactive fallout. The yield was reduced by half to reduce fallout. Finally the test was conducted on 24 December 1962. For the test, the warhead was installed in a droppable bomb casing designed for high-yield warheads (20-50 megatons), which had been used in other large-scale nuclear tests in 1962. The bomb was 2 m in diameter, 8 m long and weighed 30 tons. As for the Tsar Bomba test and other large explosions, there was an aircraft designed to carry the bomb, so a Tu-95 bomber was trained for the purpose by removing the entire bottom of the fuselage. To ensure the safety of the crew of the airplane developed a parachute system for the bomb: 2 escape parachute from 0.52 and 5 m2, four brake parachute of 42 m2, and a main parachute, of 1600 m2. The test was conducted in Mityushija Bay, Sujoy Nos, North Island of Novaya Zemlya test site, which previously were the other major tests mentioned above (as Tsar bomba). The plane dropped the bomb at subsonic speed, always flying at speeds between 20 and 25 m / s, without exceeding the 5Gs. The device exploded at 11:12 (GMT), at an altitude of 3750 m with a yield of 24.2 megatons (over 1500 times the Hiroshima bomb), making it the second largest nuclear test largest in history.


    From Wikipedia (in spanish): http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prueba_nuclear_sovi%C3%A9tica_N.%C2%BA_219


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    revolutionman
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    PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:54 pm Reply with quote

    A lack of photos and film of these tests is killing me lol.
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    RusAtom
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    PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:54 pm Reply with quote

    Operation "Tulpan" (R-14 ICBM), septemder 1962.
    Yield-?











    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-14_Usovaya









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    Rus-51
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    PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:46 pm Reply with quote

    I'm sure these photos from video. Where you found it?
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    RusAtom
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    PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:55 pm Reply with quote

    I found this on my hard drive.
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    revolutionman
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    PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:11 pm Reply with quote

    That's awesome but from where did you find them, to get them onto your hard drive? Clearly they are screenshots from a film, that not many of us have had the opportunity to view.
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    Baikal
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    PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:27 pm Reply with quote

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    Operation "Tulpan" (R-14 ICBM), septemder 1962.
    Yield-?

    Hello.

    Operation Tyulpan, 8/09/1962, a R-14 rocket was launched from eastern Siberia, with a thermonuclear warhead, towards Mityushikha bay, NZ. Before the launch, the communication with the ground was broken due to the strong interference in the atmosphere. Finally the rocket reached its target. The warhead exploded with a yield of 1900 kt.

    Thanks you for share this.


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